manuel ramos said:
> IMO, Vea is a great writer, but I can't see that his
books are noir. The
> endings are too upbeat, although the characters go
through hell to get
there.
> Michael, I know you want a "definitive" list of
hard-boiled and noir
> writers, and a clear definition. If you look at the
archives you will see
> that these are regular topics here. There have been
some very good
attempts
> at defining the genre. I'm still
learning.
>
i'm in the same boat, manuel. i'm just now getting a feel for
the
"hardboiled" and "noir". i don't really know how to search
the archives. i imagine i go to the web site and type in a
word or phrase, same as if i was looking for a book at
amazon. like you noted, i'm sure the discussion of "what is
hardboiled?" is not a new one.
near as i can tell, upbeat endings are definitely not
hardboiled. haha. the detective might get his man (or woman)
but too much mud, blood, and beer went into the gutter to be
real happy about it.
miker
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